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In a WSJ exclusive, Mark Herring, Director, Corporate Strategy & Planning, Sun Microsystems, Inc., commented for us on Microsoft's announcement of its discontinuation of .NET My Services:
WSJ: Is this the end of Microsoft's vision of .NET My Services becoming the largest Web application in the world? Mark Herring: We can only speculate that this might be the end of .NET My Services. Microsoft has been known to take things back into the lab and come out with some "new " strategy that is hyped up. What I think we see here is that no amount of marketing and money will convince enterprises to allow Microsoft to get between them and their (the enterprise's) customer. Microsoft introduced an interesting technical solution but the business community has spoken and .NET My Services failed. This does not signify the demise of Web services; instead it points to the fact that enterprises want to retain control of their most valuable asset - the customer, and they will provide Web services to these customers themselves. In doing so they will own their set of Web services and potentially extract revenue for these services. There is no need for Microsoft to play the middleman in this scenario. This move further strengthens Sun's strategy of being the Internet infrastructure provider.
WSJ: What are the strengths of a federated approach that will succeed where Microsoft failed? (Security vulnerability seemed to be a large issue for Microsoft-agree?) Mark Herring: Microsoft failed for a variety of reasons. The biggest is that Microsoft was trying to force itself into the core of the enterprise value chain - between the enterprise and the customer. Enterprises want control of both the customers that they have as well as the services they provide. Sun has understood this from the beginning. With Sun ONE, enterprise can deliver Web services today that they control, own, and there are no tolls that they need to pay Microsoft. Microsoft is still plagued by security concerns around their platform. The approach suggested by the Project Liberty Alliance means that enterprises control their customer information and they run their own system, there are no tolls paid or collected. What Microsoft was trying to do was set up a toll collection system for the Internet. Every time someone accessed a service, they could potentially be charged by Microsoft.
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Psuedo Stratified commented on 1 May 2002
To say that MyServices is not .NET is to say that MS-SQLServer is not .NET and that C# is not .NET and that Active Directory is not .NET. The truth is that MS has chosen to bundle all of its technologies under the .NET brand so that all of the success of its existing monopoly environment is understood to be .NET. That way they can claim that solutions are "up and running on .NET" when the entire technology stack has not been fully released.
But the sword cuts both ways. The failure of MyServices is perhaps the most significant failure of .NET to date since it is one of the only entirely new concepts to come from the .NET pile of products. I'm waiting for the announcement that MS is abandoning C# and returning to the table for its Java license :-)
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wargo commented on 27 Apr 2002
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Martin Angers commented on 24 Apr 2002
Sorry, mister Apple (hum...), but you should know that MyServices is not .NET and .NET is not MyServices... There is quite a bit of difference. MyServices may be dead, I couldn't care less, it was a power trip by MS and now it's gone. But .NET as a development environment, as a software architecture, is most definitely alive and is certainly a big competition to Java, like it or not.
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Jim Apple commented on 23 Apr 2002
We are using JMS for messaging. It is robust & secure. Hmmm .Net cannot come close to that. Do we trust MS the 5000 pound one eyed gorilla as middleman ......you have to be crazy.
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Jay Patel commented on 23 Apr 2002
What's misleading about the headline?
Do large corps such as Citibank, GM, American Airlines, etc. want MS as the middleman and access their customer data? I think not. It has nothing to do with MS. Enterprises value their customer data and don't want any other company (in this case MS) to access it.
Nowhere did the article say the .Net is dead, just '.Net My Services'. It was publicly announced that '.Net My Services' is dead and that MS may repackage it and sell it to companies.
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Pam Ammond commented on 23 Apr 2002
"No Need for Microsoft As Middleman," says Sun, on .NET Demise
This is a TOTALLY misleading headline. You should be ashamed of yourself. .NET is flourishing which is one of the reasons Sun is in trouble. My Services was shelved, NOT .NET. And that doesn't mean that it's dead. I just don't think now is the proper time for it. Microsoft has their hands full with the success of the rest of the .NET products.
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